On our second voyage into the azure waters, we dive into conversations and currents of Chaos. Firstly we talk about the Philosopher King of Magic, one Ramsey Dukes. From here we sail about on the winds of a few Chaos Magic orders and groups, ever pondering if there ever really was a Chaos Magic movement. My guest for this episode Saul sheds some light on an online Magical current that for a time burned bright but now only seems to flicker. Of course, WMiT? cannot merely have only a two-parter on Chaos magic, but for a time we will drop anchor.
My Guest for this Episode Saul is one of the most pleasurable and earnest folks I’ve had the pleasure to converse with on Twitter. If you want positive Magical interactions and insights, Saul is an excellent companion.
Note – Apologies from me are needed in this episode as I had forgotten that Genesis P-Orridge preferred non-specific gender pronouns. I shall endeavour to not make this mistake in the future.
Show Notes
- Ramsey Dukes – Lionel Snell’s home on the Internet
- All of Ramsey/Lionel’s Works – Read ’em all- They’re amazing
- Ramsey Dukes YouTube Page – Always interesting, always awesome
- Illuminates of Thanateros– British Isles
- Illuminates of Thanateros – North America
- Kaos Magazine #14 – Final Issue of Joel Birocco’s magazine
- Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth
- The Occultural Methods and Mutations of Thee Temple Ov Psychick Youth– Video by Carl Abrahamsson
- Television Magick – TOPY Video Oracle
- Psychic TV – A Message From Thee Temple Ov Psychick Youth
- Derek Jarman: Radical Traditionalist
- England’s Hidden Reverse: A Secret History of the Esoteric Underground by David Keenan- Wonderful book
- The Process
- Genesis Breyer P-Orridge: Change Itself – A Film by Carl Abrahamsson
- ChaosMatrix.org – Back in the Day, this site was so so important to all of us could/would be Chaos Magicians
- My Guest Saul took the Sigil of Saint Etic and Prettied it up! – Saul’s first toe-dip in Occulture Online
- DKMU – Online world of DKMU – Be warned, some of the public areas here are a bit much
- The Linking Sigil and Ellis
- DKMU Godform Cycle – Week 1 – Week 2 – Week 3 – There’s more Cycle Weeks so please seek them out if you’re interested
- Zalty – The Pirate DKMU Godform
- Modern Occultism – DKMU & The Godforms – Witches Betwixt Podcast
- The Miracle Habits by Mitch Horowitz – I devoured this book since recording this Episode and I can verily say – Must Read!
- Apocalyptic Witchcraft by Peter Grey – One of the most important books on Witchcraft and Magic ever written in my opinion. It changed everything for me – Must Read! Hic Salta
- The House of Asterion by Jorge Luis Borges – This has my guest Saul written all over it… Or into it?

Correction – With many thanks to Phil Hine, the Lincoln Order of Neuromancers was not actually a real thing, not a group that actually met. The more you know!